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Thoughts On Boogaard’s Passing, Growing As A Writer



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When I started writing about sports, I did it the way people talk about sports and athletes in general, which seemed like the obvious things to do.  Sidney Crosby’s great, Matt Cooke’s a prick, etc. etc.

You guys have a blog somewhere don't you? I'll assume yes.

That type of black and white opinion-sharing is tailor-made for the blog world, especially when it comes to team-centric blogs.  Half the people just want to read things that confirm their personal opinions (what a great writer!) so it’s easy for, say, a Hurricanes blog to appeal to Hurricanes fans.  “We got jobbed by the refs last night,” “Cam Ward is underrated,” all that stuff is fine and plays well to an agreeing audience.

I’ve never been a flag-waving superfan of any NHL team, as much as I love the Islanders – for proof, you can pull up basically anything I’ve ever written about the team over the past couple years, which has been in disarray (but appears to be rounding some sort of corner with a potential new building and player development. Okay maybe I’m a little biased). 

But I digress.

Point is, since I’ve never really been a super-passionate, blind fan (no disrespect to those who are) it was easier for me to transfer my writing to a site like Puck Daddy, where the people reading are fans of different teams.  It’s allowed me to write in a grey shades, so you know when I do take a hard stance on something, I mean it.

Problem is, I’m not as good at going grey on players.  In fact I’m awful at it.

I played the game at a high enough level to decipher who’s good from who’s bad, and I never quite shook the tendency to make harsh judgements about the guys I was competing against.  It was part of being a player – you kinda have to think you’re better than your opponent, and maybe that’s stuck with me.

All that is a long way of saying – and thanks for joining me on that long journey to get here - that I’ve come to regret the way I fairly regularly talk about players.

The Boogeyman

When I read that Derek Boogaard died – and very possibly due to something that could be related to mental issues (I won’t get too into that whole thing since we don’t know anything yet, it’s just one of the possibilities that made me take a look in the mirror) – I realized it’s very likely that I never once typed, or said a nice word about the guy.

And that’s not the worst thing in the world, as long as I kept it to being about him as a player, where nothing has changed – I still don’t think he was a very good one – and not about him as a person.  I simply didn’t know him.

Point is, it occurs to me that writing about players doesn’t have to be so….”team-centric-blog-like” - not long ago on twitter I explained to someone why I thought he was a useless goon (that feels gross to type right now).  And there I was days later, reading quotes from people who actually knew the man in real life.

By all accounts, Derek Boogaard was a charitable, kind, well-liked teammate, and I have no doubt that that’s true.  “Useless goon?” That’s just ignorant.

I hope hearing a constant barrage of words like mine (which were unnecessarily harsh) had nothing to do with his passing – after the season he said he was embarrassed about his season, and we know he was in the NHL’s behavioral health and substance abuse program, so it’s crossed my mind.  I’d hate to think it was people like me, in the media, that made him feel that way.

Doing what he did best

By all logic he was just a guy who saw a path to fulfill his dream of playing in the NHL and get rich, and he did what he had to do to get there.  And while I don’t have to respect his chosen line of work, I do have to admit to myself I’d have probably done the same thing, if given the option.  And he got it done.

I hope whatever news we learn about his death in the coming weeks tells a different story, an accident, a condition, just anything better than my worst fear about how it happened.

If it turns out to be something other than that, I can still take the same lesson away from this.  I’m learning to grow as a writer, and the latest step is to tone down the personal attacks.

RIP to the boogeyman.  And condolences to his family and friends.


By the way, his family is donating his brain to the study of concussions in sports, which I think is excellent news.

Eastern Conference Final resumes tonight friends, let’s hope it’s a doozy!


33 Responses to “Thoughts On Boogaard’s Passing, Growing As A Writer”
  1. Nick in NY says:

    Good post, Justin.

    I do think it’s possible for you to have qualified Boogaard as a useless goon and have that appraisal start and stop at his hockey-playing prowess (or lack thereof.) In other words, without it being an attempt at an indictment of Boogaard the human being.

    My guess is hockey players don’t all want to be defined solely by their job – and that’s similar to most of us, if we were to think about it. Sure our profession – and our relative proficiency at it – is a part of our personality, but it isn’t all of it. So, that has to cut both ways, right?

  2. jtbourne says:

    Thanks, and well said. I didn’t mean it as a personal affront, but I guess I never thought to separate him the player from him the man. I only saw him in one light, and it wasn’t a pretty picture. I think it’s good to have occasional cold splash of water to the face to just be a little more careful with my words.

  3. Dominik says:

    Well said.

    Sports forces us into the position of judging real people harshly based on their profession which is out there for all to see and mock (the salary cap amplifies that, making us treat players as widgets defined by their performance vs. cap space eaten). But I think there’s always room for a more “humanist” approach to writing about these topics.

    That doesn’t mean filling every evaluative statement with nice-guy qualifiers, but it does mean that putting sports in their proper context (it’s just a game!) and not going all talk-radio-loudmouth on it can be productive and refreshing. (On that note, anyone in good conscience can still say Boogeyman wasn’t a good NHLer — but he still found a way to make it, and his death is no less tragic.)

    Frankly, as a reader I enjoy a more compassionate approach anyway. I haven’t read everything you’ve written, but you always struck me as someone who navigates that balance quite well already.

  4. John says:

    Hi Justin,
    I generally enjoy your writing and it may very well be the case that the media and harsh critics were in some way responsible for Derek Boogaard’s death, but this article smacks of the usual media patting themselves on the back and giving themselves way too much credit for things that happen in the subjects they cover.

    While I’m not so dumb as to think that the media has absolutely no effect on the players or sports in general, I think it’s pretty much ludicrous that you’re suggesting that as part of the media, you contributed to someone’s death by writing bad things about them. I don’t mean to take this all out on you, but the importance members of the media place on themselves and the egos they develop are getting relentlessly tiring and this is just another example.

    Do you think his family wants to read something like this? You have no idea of the cause of death. This is wrong at best and completely insensitive at worst.

    I’m glad you’re toning down the personal attacks but to do it in the wake of this tragedy and attempting to make yourself look better by writing an article like this(or worse, I guess, if it comes out that Boogaard died as a result of stress related to media quotations/opinions) is pretty misguided.

    That said, I generally enjoy your writing and will continue to read your insightful articles. Just maybe consider all angles of a story before you post it.


  5. BReynolds says:


    As a guy who wrote about Derek in his professional life, and worked with him in his off ice charitable work, I can honest tell you that he was never bothered by being called a “goon.” He knew his role, and why he did it. It was his job, and it made him his money and gave him the chance to do all of the other wonderful things he got to do in his life.

    I can also tell you that, in general, depression does not come from an outside source. Nor can it be cured or overcome by outside influence. If, and it is a big if, this turns out to be something like that, you need take no blame, even a minor amount. Depression is a self-induced, self-defeated disease. It can be helped by outside forces only if the person wishes it to be helped.

    I join in hoping this happened in some innocuous manner, a natural manner. Please, do not assume anything on yourself. Professional hockey players know people write negative things about them, and they do read them. They, from I have seen, take them as a cause to play better and prove that “idiot writer” wrong.

    While we can all stop and look at the way we treat these guys, as though they are simply machines playing a game for our amusement, there is nothing to indicate that would have changed anything. The media does not drive people to depression, nor does the media drive people to suicide. While it is an easy, physical manifestation of an unexplainable fear, and it makes us feel better to point a finger… depression and suicide go far, far deeper than a couple insults.

    Rest easy, sir. Do your job, and let them use theirs. Should you wish to be “nicer” to players, good on ya. But if they deserve criticism, they deserve it. Just be fair, and that is all anyone can ask.

  6. jtbourne says:

    John – no, of course I don’t think what I said personally contributed to his death. My fiancee and I talked about trying to become better people after I mentioned I felt bad for saying brutal things about a guy who, it turns out, was actually a pretty darn good person. The blog community is a little bit to quick with the venom, and I want to be better than that – thus the connection that I’d like to start being a little more sensitive in my writing. Regardless of how he passed I can learn that lesson.

    “Attempting to make yourself look better.” Nice.

  7. jtbourne says:

    Hey Bryan, thanks for the note. That’s all interesting to hear, and I appreciate it. While, as I mentioned in another comment, I don’t feel like I was in anyway actually responsible (if it is the worst-case scenario), it was just a chance to remind myself that you just never know what effect your words are having on people. Even Bri, my fiancee, was saying how casually we tear people down sometimes. I guess I just want to be sure that any criticism I do give is earned.

  8. Nick in NY says:

    Justin – I guess that’s the thing to me: that, speaking as a real hockey player, you are in a better position to harbor an opinion of Boogaard as a useless goon than certainly I – speaking as a fake hockey player/fan – would be. So I don’t see you labeling him as such – in a hockey context – as ignorant. In fact, I think it’s informed (the opposite of ignorant.)

    This is not to take away from what I read as the central point of your post. And if the by-product of that is to consider that there is more to the man than his game, then that’s good. We should probably all try to practice that a bit more. But I don’t see a need to caveat-up when you’re speaking in a hockey context, is all.

  9. scilicious says:


    Yes I have a blog (not under this alias though and not hockey related), and I have a similar stance on you as that I’m not jumping on the bandwagon. God, I’ve made so many people angry and riled up just because I don’t share the popular opinion, it’s not even funny anymore. So I get it.

    And I get what you’re saying about the ‘useless goon’ comment.

    On the other hand, I don’t think we have to always take into account who a player is off the ice. We know, or can be pretty certain from all evidence pointing towards it, that Matt Cooke and Chris Pronger are both good guys, yet I can’t stand either of them as a player. While I can appreciate what the guys do off the ice, it’s not the reason I primarily watch hockey. This might be related to the fact that pretty much 90% of what I do get about the guys is what happens off the ice, considering I’m living 6 hours ahead of EST, even if I wanted to, I couldn’t possibly follow what guys and teams do when they’re not playing.

    So unless I go looking for it, specifically look them out and seek out what they do, all I know about them is what happens on the ice, in a game situation. And in those situations there’s players who are…well, useless goons – sorry for borrowing that turn of phrase. In many ways, you’re in a unique situation as a former professional player yourself, as you said you’re in a position to judge a guy from what is presented to you. You can infer much more easily what may go on in locker rooms or why someone is playing the way he does, but do you have the responsibility to take into account what kind of character he is away from the job?

    I’ve read an account a little while ago, I don’t recall the player right now sorry, about one guy actually having evolved into the kind of player he is because that was the niche he could fill on the ice. While he wasn’t happy with his goon image, he wasn’t skilled enough for the kind of sophisticated play that would have earned him another ‘sort’ of roster spot. So while guys on ice might have a certain image, can we always take into account who he is under different circumstances? CAN we do that? As the casual watcher or the distant watcher? Neither of which applies to you, but on the other hand there are – by a low estimate – 600 odd guys in the NHL, can you really know (of) them all on AND off the ice?

    While I appreciate you taking your former statements into consideration in light of new events, I don’t think you have to necessarily be sorry for an assessment of the man’s professional career. Don’t get me wrong, I’m sorry he’s dead, I am and I feel for his family immensely, but the image he had wasn’t because he went offering the other cheek (well he did, but in a different way).

    And this might sound…macabre but I’m saying this as a neurobiologist: I can hardly wait for the autopsy report / finding of the guys who will look at his brain in case the autopsy was inconclusive.

  10. jtbourne says:

    Nick in NY – I see your point. I don’t intend to stop claiming that certain players are (by NHL standards) bad players, just want to do better at keeping the focus on puck!

  11. Bomski17 says:


    After reading your entry and the reaction to it, I think we can sum this up in one way. When text is read, whether it be in an email, blog, newspaper, etc, the reader can interpret the story however they wish too. I guess the real good writers leave no room for interpretation, people just understand exactly what they are trying to say.

    Way easier said (written) than done.

    My take away is that I have no problem with how you wrote the article, but maybe the timing wasn’t right? The first thing that popped into my head as I was reading was, “too soon”.

    With such a sensitive subject, maybe people just weren’t ready to dive into it.

  12. jtbourne says:

    Yeah, I tried to wait a few days but still wanted to stay relevant. I probably should’ve waited a few more. Apologies to anyone offended by the timing.

  13. Sherry says:

    Whoa – I sincerely don’t get the offended part. John, way harsh – it seemed to me that you had a personal/emotional reaction to Justin’s piece and were venting a bit.

    To me, Justin’s public self reflection seems entirely appropriate for his *blog* (but I am coming from a female perspective that eats stuff like this up). I thought blogs were the very places that writers and their readers could engage in exchanges that are more open and honest than what you might find in more conventional publications (which are often rife with hyperbole – yawn).

    Funny thing is Justin I read you (and comment on your blog) because to me you have walked the grey line fairly well and consistently – even for being young and a “novice” writer. I appreciate your thoughtfulness (and your humor, and your hockey knowledge) – and the fact that you are willing to lay yourself somewhat bare at times. That takes courage, and I applaud you for sharing your thoughts as you did. Again, to me, the timing wasn’t inappropriate at all – I was kind of wondering why we hadn’t heard from you on the subject yet…

    I feel so bad about Derek’s death – and I too am hoping that the cause of death will end up being a catastrophic physical event as opposed to anything that came as part of his being a role playing hockey player. It would be so sad to find out that he had changes in his brain that caused him to be depressed or suicidal (was so happy to hear that his parents donated his brain for research). And selfishly, I need it to not be brain trauma because I have this undercrrent of dread that Crosby isn’t going to be the same player when he returns to the game.

    So in closing, “Sidney Crosby’s great (fingers crossed, still…), Matt Cooke’s a prick (I have faith he’ll be different next year), and Justin Bourne is a great writer!”

    Signed, Sycophantic little me. :)

  14. Julia says:

    Hi there, Justin,

    I felt a little like you about Boogaard’s death. I lived in MN and I’m really sorry I didn’t meet him when I had the chance (as one fan in a thousand during the State Fair 2009, but still), so I couldn’t appreciate firsthand his good qualities.

    This said, and blending this with another too much spoken about subject of this past week (Avery, should I say more?)… makes me wonder, how much should we care about what players do and are outside the rink? Should we pay extra attention to what they think and say on things not hockey, just because we know their names? Or should we let them just be, entitled like any other citizen to have a life and just as unremarkable?

    I’m not arriving to any conclusions here, other than I’m sad that a good man and a good friend to many is gone. Sometimes life is hard, and that’s how it is.

  15. Kairos says:

    @BReynolds- with respect, saying that all depression is self induced and self defeated is painting an unbelievably complex condition in too broad a stroke. Environmental factors and genetics play a huge role in depression. While I respect your opinion, I dont think you’re giving the subject enough respect. Get a virus that damages your central nervous system, which helps regulate brain chemicals affecting mood, and you can be depressed for life, because of a bug. True story.

    @Justin- I’m a fan. Always look forward to your stuff. Nice to see you go public on such a personal subject. Sigh… now you’re my favorite, and you don’t even cover the Habs (for shame!).

  16. jtbourne says:

    Julia – I love where that conversation could go. Lemme stew on that, maybe I’ll make it a post.

    Kairos – Thanks a lot, even coming from a Habs fan! (Kidding, I barely even dislike them).

  17. neil c. says:

    I think any reasonably intelligent person reading sports blogs knows that 1) Comments are directed at a person’s hockey ability/style/behaviour unless they specifically refer to a person’s character outside of hockey, and 2) Comments are going to be written with more ‘flare’ than you would typically find in court testimony. It seems like you feel guilty for saying negative things about how guys play but people expect you to be objective and honest, with a bit of entertainment mixed in. You can’t be held responsible for the impressions of readers who are not considering these things. Obviously there is still a decency line but you never come close to crossing it, imho. You’re right, he saw a path and he took it. And everyone that knows him says he was a hell of a nice guy. It seems like a given to me (and I’d imagine to most readers as well) that those two topics are completely separate from his contribution to hockey, his style of play, etc. I think BReynolds and Nick from N.Y. have both made really good comments on this.

    @John, your comment about Bourne’s failure to consider all the angles is the only comment I’ve read on this post so far that seems to have completely dismissed the possibility of alternative angles, you should take your own advice before writing something that nasty on a topic like this.

  18. David Seder says:

    Of all the professional athletes that I have met over the years,far and away the nicest have been Hockey enforcers.These guys fill a role that has been created by the NHL.Only fairly recently have we experienced enforcers like Raitis Ivanans and George Parros,who basically are there to enforce only.Tough guys of the past
    (1950′s-1980′s)from Reg Fleming to Teddy Green to Paul Holmgren were multi skilled players who could do a number of things well.Dave Schultz scored 15 goals a year,and Tiger Williams scoredm over 300 career goals in a long,fight filled career.Derek Boogaard was the toughest of the tough,he did his job,and he did it well.He protected his smaller,skilled teammates who all knew that Derek had their backs.Thats what an “enforcer/policeman” is supposed to do in the NHL.I didnt know Derek,but from all reports he was a wonderful man,with a strong sense of community,and a giving spirit.May God Bless Derek Boogaard’s family members,and may we all remember that these enforcers are just filling a role that has been present for years in the NHL.Hate the fight,maybe,but hate the fighter,never.

  19. minnesotagirl71 says:

    As a MN resident and hockey fan – this feels too soon and the speculation about cause of death feels disrespectful. I’ve spent the last few days reading the stories written by writers who knew Derek Boogaard. When these professional writers talk about their own tears over his death, when his former teammates are too choked up to continue an interview, when his family members attend and speak at a memorial gathering of fans – I realize how losing the Boogeyman has impacted so many people in the Minnesota Hockey family (and our extended family of the Houston Aeros).

    Paraphrasing former Wild player Wes Walz – he said the whole team felt a couple inches taller and a whole lot braver knowing that Boogaard was on their bench.

    So one person’s “useless goon” is someone else’s hero.

    A Boogaard t-shirt was my first piece of Wild gear. It got stashed in the back of the closet when he left Minny. It’s now back out…to be worn when we need to be reminded of our favorite enforcer.

  20. Carly says:

    I get it. And I think this post is perfectly at home here. It might have been different on PuckDaddy but here, it’s more about growth as a writer and a person, more about reflection and introspection and less about Boogaard himself. Censoring yourself or delaying reactions is sometimes (though not always) the worst thing a writer can do; it’s discovery of self and the world. You took a second glance to start seeing another human being as more than a job or a label. You will be better because of it. Anyone who takes a moment to do the same will be better because of it. And I thank you for writing it.

    I didn’t know him but my heart aches for his family because I’m from Saskatchewan and, you would know, that’s just who we are. I beamed with pride when Laich changed a tire, I give a hairy eyebrow to those who pick on Marleau when he’s not doing his best, and I shed tears for Boogaard.

    Keep it up.

  21. Sherry says:

    Oh and interesting piece on Seguin – just the sort of info I count on you for JB.

  22. Radley says:

    Nice article, Justin. I admire your honesty. From a Rangers fan, it’s no secret that Derek wasn’t the most talented player on the ice, but strangely his presence made those 22 games he played in blue infinitely more interesting and entertaining. Pro hockey being something of a show, that was worth a great deal to me and many other spectators I’m sure. He won’t really be remembered for putting up points, but fans will still remember him for bringing us out of our seats just as often as other players.

    One thing I’d like to point out is that it was Derek himself, not just his family, who had agreed to have his brain donated to science. Obviously he had made that arrangement at some point before his death, it’s just a sad unexpected coincidence that it happened so soon. That surely should highlight another dimension of his character that might have otherwise gone unnoticed.

    Keep up the good work.

  23. Sevan G says:


    Layoff Seguin…. you’re write up on Yahoo made you look like a douche..

  24. Kyle says:

    In all honesty, as a fan, we forget to recognize players as people too. We idolize them, expect greatness from them, and don’t believe they can be affected by things like a family, the media, money, hell, anything at affects a normal everyday person. For the players we see as 3rd/4th line guys, we see them as expendable, unless they are THE perfect shutdown centre, or perfect agitator who is a fantastic fan personality. Personally, I have also discussed with friends and fans alike the likes of Matt Cooke, Boogaard, Colton Orr, Matt Carkner, and other ‘enforcers’ around the league as garbage players who either need to learn to score or need to learn to do something other than fight. while from a hockey standpoint one can make that argument, we completely forget that these men are trying to earn a living doing the thing they love. they get to play hockey every day, in front of thousands of people. I myself would fight my way through junior hockey as well as the AHL to even play one game in the majors. Yet we view them as a different ‘species’, one who we expect better from yet would do the exact same thing to be in their situation.

    I certainly hope the opinion of writers as well as fans did not have any play in the death of Boogaard. While you as a writer may be re-thinking your writing styles on individual players, I as a fan (and hopefully others) will begin to rethink how we talk about those players who we have little respect for in the game itself. You are entirely right; we must begin to look past the content they provide on the ice and recognize them for the individual they are.

  25. Sherry says:

    Watching the game with my mom (recorded, delayed – dinner, homework help, flute listening) and after the first Seguin goal (and subsequent play in the second…) I told my mom I had to check Twitter as I figured “Bourne will be freakin’ out”. I have to say, you did not dissappoint Justin. O. M. G., so funny.

  26. Patrick says:

    Just remember what you say may be out of mind when you publish it, but It only begins to effect people that read it from that point on. I realize this is what you are saying, but at the same time you still pass judgement on him as a player who was hired by a team to do that job. Enforcer, goon, or fighter. If you do not like that about the game take it up with the NHL. Otherwise I bet Boogaard could still out skate you or anyone else for that matter. The guy loved the game so much that he was willing to step into a role he more than likely did not want. I am also 6’7 290 and love the game, but all the coaches want a goon out of me. The worst thing is to be a big man with a big heart. Always misunderstood or asked to be mean. I feel for the guy and pray for his family. It is good that you have come to this self realization. I hope it sticks with you and you grow from it. If not…I hope it slaps you in the face every time you go against it. I do not mean this as an attack. Just remember you are a voice a lot of people hear when ever they look at Yahoo NHL news. It is your choice if you want to be a Journalist or just a guy with a computer and an opinion.

  27. Ross says:

    Although I prefer your minor league related posts, ones like this are why you have a great future as a writer and will almost certainly go further on the keys than you did- with all due respect- on the ice. Bravo.

  28. Jeff says:

    A few of the comments in here seem a little harsh.

    Not knowing you personally, but having followed your blog for the last few years, I’ve come to the conclusion that you are a pretty decent guy, with a unique, somewhat inside perspective on my favorite sport. While the vast majority of us watch professional hockey as spectators, you have actually played at a high level, and know and understand way more about what happens on and off the ice than someone like me. I’m sure that experience has left you with a strong sense of fraternity to the guys playing at a professional level, whether or not you knew them on a personal basis.

    As a reader of your blog, I appreciate you sharing a moment of self-reflection and empathy – to me it says a lot about you as a writer and as a human being. I didn’t know Derek personally, wasn’t a fan, didn’t know anything about him off the ice. Much like you, I really only considered him within the realm of the NHL. I probably never thought of him without thinking “goon”, or fighting. Thanks for making step back a little bit and remember that these guys are human beings just like the rest of us.

    Keep up the good writing.

  29. Theo says:

    We can all be better people and for a writer to openly acknowledge something and go for that is admirable. People are so quick to personally put down/attack/ slander others and I find it refreshing to read about someone wanting to do better in that department.

  30. BuckarooClub says:

    I’ve been enjoying your writing for a while, and I thought was a great post. One of the things I like best is that you do it from a players perspective. As a former player myself (through college), I think while a guy like Boogey might have been called a “goon”, at the end of the day, anyone who played the game knew that “goon” was in the show and we weren’t. We criticize Boogy for not being the best on his skates or with his stick, but I bet he would look pretty smooth at Chelsea Piers, mopping up all the “also rans” thinking they’re hot in the A league.

    Bottom 6 guys in the NHL are pretty replaceable, 4th liners even more so. You’ve got guys on the way up, and on the way down. Teams with “depth” owe it more to those players having a good season, then really being that good. Boogy found a way to separate himself from the pack, and keep earning a living playing the game we love. It’s a shame if it was related to fighting, just as it’s shame when there’s a death at a refinery, mine, construction site, or any other job that an aspiring player without a college education might find themself working at when they DON’T make it in pro hockey.


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