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		<title>By: pat</title>
		<link>http://www.jtbourne.com/blog-comments-high-horse/comment-page-1/#comment-1716</link>
		<dc:creator>pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 13:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Justin  love the blog I hope the negative crap doesnt get to ya   ....Keep up the great work</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Justin  love the blog I hope the negative crap doesnt get to ya   &#8230;.Keep up the great work</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
		<link>http://www.jtbourne.com/blog-comments-high-horse/comment-page-1/#comment-1713</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 19:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I may not agree with you Josh but these discussions are way more interesting (for me at least) when we have people with different opinions having EPIC hockey/journalism/whatever threads and I&#039;d way rather have you say your piece than not. I am a fan of Bourne&#039;s honesty but I also like how the blog allows me to get fairly random hockey opinions from people all over the world that have often played to a high level (or people like myself who play on the highest difficulty setting of NHL 09).  It&#039;s going to be a long, sweet, sweet season......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I may not agree with you Josh but these discussions are way more interesting (for me at least) when we have people with different opinions having EPIC hockey/journalism/whatever threads and I&#8217;d way rather have you say your piece than not. I am a fan of Bourne&#8217;s honesty but I also like how the blog allows me to get fairly random hockey opinions from people all over the world that have often played to a high level (or people like myself who play on the highest difficulty setting of NHL 09).  It&#8217;s going to be a long, sweet, sweet season&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://www.jtbourne.com/blog-comments-high-horse/comment-page-1/#comment-1709</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 14:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this...

&quot;I think the point that can be better made is, when a player gets bumped by an opponent after the whistle, and an “agitator” flies in to fight him, that’s not “love of teammate”. That’s “love of his job” – those guys know that they have a role, and they have to look for chances to execute what they do or they’re useless, the same way goal scorers wait for their chances. That’s not protection. That’s the guy at the bar who you know is going to be in a fight, just a matter of when and who.&quot;

is a damn good point.</description>
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<p>&#8220;I think the point that can be better made is, when a player gets bumped by an opponent after the whistle, and an “agitator” flies in to fight him, that’s not “love of teammate”. That’s “love of his job” – those guys know that they have a role, and they have to look for chances to execute what they do or they’re useless, the same way goal scorers wait for their chances. That’s not protection. That’s the guy at the bar who you know is going to be in a fight, just a matter of when and who.&#8221;</p>
<p>is a damn good point.</p>
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		<title>By: jtbourne</title>
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		<dc:creator>jtbourne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 04:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey man - definitely, I&#039;ll make my response and anything further can be continued through email.

I acknowledged that Pascal is making the best of his abilities in my original entry.  And yes, he was likable, but I&#039;m sure there are hundreds of people who like Marty Mcsorley (Wayne Gretzky being one of them), and not one of them is going to condone his stick-swinging incident.  In the same way, I don&#039;t condone the way Pascal plays in general - it&#039;s reckless, occasionally selfish, and frequently dangerous.  I fail to see the relevance of him being under contract with the Islanders (as I haven&#039;t been since &#039;08), and by no means am I obligated to paint a pretty picture of everyone I played with.  

I think the point that can be better made is, when a player gets bumped by an opponent after the whistle, and an &quot;agitator&quot; flies in to fight him, that&#039;s not &quot;love of teammate&quot;.  That&#039;s &quot;love of his job&quot; - those guys know that they have a role, and they have to look for chances to execute what they do or they&#039;re useless, the same way goal scorers wait for their chances.  That&#039;s not protection.  That&#039;s the guy at the bar who you know is going to be in a fight, just a matter of when and who.

I can&#039;t state clearly enough - I like fighting in hockey.  This is the difference between agitators and enforcers though.  Enforcers fight for protection, redemption, whatever.  They act as sherriff, and keep the game safer... safer from the &quot;agitators&quot;, who dip their toe across the line of acceptable like they&#039;re testing the temperature of a pool, pull it back, smirk and go &quot;what&#039;d I do?  What?  Two minutes for what?&quot; 

The hockey world is small, and if everybody I played with were lavished in praise, all my blog would be is one, lone &quot;we&#039;re taking it one game at a time&quot;.  Not only would it be insincere, but i&#039;d be really limiting myself.  

And frankly... &quot;How would I like to be in Pascals skates?&quot;  I&#039;ve been in Pascals skates.  Being a player means fans pay your salary, and are therefore free to judge you the way I&#039;m free to judge a movie I&#039;ve paid to see.  The only difference is that in the case of my critique, the opinion was informed.  

So I wouldn&#039;t blame him for not liking it.  But these days, I&#039;m a columnist, and he was relevant.  C&#039;est la vie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey man &#8211; definitely, I&#8217;ll make my response and anything further can be continued through email.</p>
<p>I acknowledged that Pascal is making the best of his abilities in my original entry.  And yes, he was likable, but I&#8217;m sure there are hundreds of people who like Marty Mcsorley (Wayne Gretzky being one of them), and not one of them is going to condone his stick-swinging incident.  In the same way, I don&#8217;t condone the way Pascal plays in general &#8211; it&#8217;s reckless, occasionally selfish, and frequently dangerous.  I fail to see the relevance of him being under contract with the Islanders (as I haven&#8217;t been since &#8217;08), and by no means am I obligated to paint a pretty picture of everyone I played with.  </p>
<p>I think the point that can be better made is, when a player gets bumped by an opponent after the whistle, and an &#8220;agitator&#8221; flies in to fight him, that&#8217;s not &#8220;love of teammate&#8221;.  That&#8217;s &#8220;love of his job&#8221; &#8211; those guys know that they have a role, and they have to look for chances to execute what they do or they&#8217;re useless, the same way goal scorers wait for their chances.  That&#8217;s not protection.  That&#8217;s the guy at the bar who you know is going to be in a fight, just a matter of when and who.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t state clearly enough &#8211; I like fighting in hockey.  This is the difference between agitators and enforcers though.  Enforcers fight for protection, redemption, whatever.  They act as sherriff, and keep the game safer&#8230; safer from the &#8220;agitators&#8221;, who dip their toe across the line of acceptable like they&#8217;re testing the temperature of a pool, pull it back, smirk and go &#8220;what&#8217;d I do?  What?  Two minutes for what?&#8221; </p>
<p>The hockey world is small, and if everybody I played with were lavished in praise, all my blog would be is one, lone &#8220;we&#8217;re taking it one game at a time&#8221;.  Not only would it be insincere, but i&#8217;d be really limiting myself.  </p>
<p>And frankly&#8230; &#8220;How would I like to be in Pascals skates?&#8221;  I&#8217;ve been in Pascals skates.  Being a player means fans pay your salary, and are therefore free to judge you the way I&#8217;m free to judge a movie I&#8217;ve paid to see.  The only difference is that in the case of my critique, the opinion was informed.  </p>
<p>So I wouldn&#8217;t blame him for not liking it.  But these days, I&#8217;m a columnist, and he was relevant.  C&#8217;est la vie.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 04:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justin, you&#039;re free to share whatever opinion you want, of course. Again, I love your blog, your comments about Matt Greene made me chuckle because my ex- had to sit next to him in an art class and her comment was one evening over dinner in a &quot;classy&quot; Grand Forks establishment was, &quot;Does he ever not smell like [crap]?&quot; 

However, calling a former teammate out who is under contract with your former club with the guise of, &quot;Just doin&#039; my job,&quot; is questionable at best. How would you like it if you were in Pascal&#039;s skates? He&#039;s doing what he feels is necessary to keep his salary in the AHL, he wants his contract renewed next year. The guy played in the Q, probably doesn&#039;t have a college degree, was nice to you, and is probably quite thrilled that he&#039;s making AHL dollars. Don&#039;t throw your teammate under the bus, is my point, no matter how irrelevant a blogger&#039;s opinion is to the New York Islanders organization. What does that say about you and the organization? 

I don&#039;t want to waste any more of your blog space, or get this blog off on a tangent, if you&#039;d like we can continue this over e-mail. 

Best regards, dude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justin, you&#8217;re free to share whatever opinion you want, of course. Again, I love your blog, your comments about Matt Greene made me chuckle because my ex- had to sit next to him in an art class and her comment was one evening over dinner in a &#8220;classy&#8221; Grand Forks establishment was, &#8220;Does he ever not smell like [crap]?&#8221; </p>
<p>However, calling a former teammate out who is under contract with your former club with the guise of, &#8220;Just doin&#8217; my job,&#8221; is questionable at best. How would you like it if you were in Pascal&#8217;s skates? He&#8217;s doing what he feels is necessary to keep his salary in the AHL, he wants his contract renewed next year. The guy played in the Q, probably doesn&#8217;t have a college degree, was nice to you, and is probably quite thrilled that he&#8217;s making AHL dollars. Don&#8217;t throw your teammate under the bus, is my point, no matter how irrelevant a blogger&#8217;s opinion is to the New York Islanders organization. What does that say about you and the organization? </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to waste any more of your blog space, or get this blog off on a tangent, if you&#8217;d like we can continue this over e-mail. </p>
<p>Best regards, dude.</p>
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		<title>By: Officer Koharski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Officer Koharski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 21:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading Deirdre&#039;s comment I was going to open that tired old can of worms-the enforcer debate.  But instead of mincing words, I will instead make this statement which has nothing to do with JBs article or any other comments:  Georges Laraque is the NHL&#039;s best enforcer.  He doesn&#039;t play dirty, he doesn&#039;t bully players, he enforces.  He plays a simple and effective game, and enforces the rules of the game that aren&#039;t in the book.  Few want to mess with him or anyone under his watch, thus, he is an enforcer, not a goon or a thug.  And he can play hockey.  He is the best at what he does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading Deirdre&#8217;s comment I was going to open that tired old can of worms-the enforcer debate.  But instead of mincing words, I will instead make this statement which has nothing to do with JBs article or any other comments:  Georges Laraque is the NHL&#8217;s best enforcer.  He doesn&#8217;t play dirty, he doesn&#8217;t bully players, he enforces.  He plays a simple and effective game, and enforces the rules of the game that aren&#8217;t in the book.  Few want to mess with him or anyone under his watch, thus, he is an enforcer, not a goon or a thug.  And he can play hockey.  He is the best at what he does.</p>
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		<title>By: Deirdre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deirdre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Taking a completely different side on this - after reading your write up on Pascal I suggested to my husband that he pick him as the Enforcer in his fantasy league...sadly it was pointed out that most of his minutes weren&#039;t in the NHL..and that he was being suspended for the move that started this whole conversation in the first place.

C&#039;est la vie.

There&#039;s a place in hockey for all positions, Enforcer included (IMHO).  But in all cases the player in position X isn&#039;t always going to like what the player in position Y does.  That&#039;s part of the reason very few folks switch positions in this game - too much of a learning curve!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Taking a completely different side on this &#8211; after reading your write up on Pascal I suggested to my husband that he pick him as the Enforcer in his fantasy league&#8230;sadly it was pointed out that most of his minutes weren&#8217;t in the NHL..and that he was being suspended for the move that started this whole conversation in the first place.</p>
<p>C&#8217;est la vie.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a place in hockey for all positions, Enforcer included (IMHO).  But in all cases the player in position X isn&#8217;t always going to like what the player in position Y does.  That&#8217;s part of the reason very few folks switch positions in this game &#8211; too much of a learning curve!</p>
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		<title>By: Lyera</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lyera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 16:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for keeping it honest!  Its part of the reason I continue to read your blog and all your other articles.  I love the game and think its really interesting (and sometimes quite hilarious) to hear about the behind-the-scenes stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for keeping it honest!  Its part of the reason I continue to read your blog and all your other articles.  I love the game and think its really interesting (and sometimes quite hilarious) to hear about the behind-the-scenes stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: jtbourne</title>
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		<dc:creator>jtbourne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 13:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank for the response - I think instead of the skill guys thinking &quot;here goes so and so trying to keep his spot here&quot;, at the time it&#039;s more like &quot;ahhh f***, we&#039;re about to be short-handed again...&quot;.  and it&#039;s only after killing off a guy&#039;s penalties (which involves blocking shots and extra hustle) for a few months that you sort of look around and go... &quot;hey... what does so and so bring to the table again?&quot;.  It&#039;s amazing how many of those guys get left off the playoff roster after a year of staying in the lineup.  My personal opinion of Pascal (nice, sincere - I can&#039;t reiterate that enough.  Guys have joked that they keep him on the roster so somebody will do all the community appearances) is totally separate from how I feel about what he does on the ice, which in my opinion, hurts the team for personal gain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank for the response &#8211; I think instead of the skill guys thinking &#8220;here goes so and so trying to keep his spot here&#8221;, at the time it&#8217;s more like &#8220;ahhh f***, we&#8217;re about to be short-handed again&#8230;&#8221;.  and it&#8217;s only after killing off a guy&#8217;s penalties (which involves blocking shots and extra hustle) for a few months that you sort of look around and go&#8230; &#8220;hey&#8230; what does so and so bring to the table again?&#8221;.  It&#8217;s amazing how many of those guys get left off the playoff roster after a year of staying in the lineup.  My personal opinion of Pascal (nice, sincere &#8211; I can&#8217;t reiterate that enough.  Guys have joked that they keep him on the roster so somebody will do all the community appearances) is totally separate from how I feel about what he does on the ice, which in my opinion, hurts the team for personal gain.</p>
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		<title>By: Jbrown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jbrown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 06:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The honestly and I-was-there-experience is exactly why I keep reading this blog. Don&#039;t ever change because you&#039;ve &quot;hurt someone&#039;s feelings&quot;. People are always going to whine. Your own integrity is what matters so stick to your guns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The honestly and I-was-there-experience is exactly why I keep reading this blog. Don&#8217;t ever change because you&#8217;ve &#8220;hurt someone&#8217;s feelings&#8221;. People are always going to whine. Your own integrity is what matters so stick to your guns.</p>
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